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joe biden, those that thought joe biden did better. conversation very heated. let's start with claudia. you thought biden did better than ryan. why? >> he seemed to have a better command of the facts and more prepared with specifics. where i think ryan was more -- again, several people said he avoided giving specific information. biden seemed well informed. >> let's pass this back to arthur. why do you think joe biden did better? >> compared to what obama's performance, i thought he just didn't allow the facts to be blown out of proportion without the other side giving factual basis. >> these are some of the people that thought joe biden did better. a third of the people thought paul ryan was a winner. women tended to rate paul ryan more highly in our fork he is occupy. why you thought that paul ryan won. >> i thought paul ryan had aa better idea of the tax figures, educating us, is he until biden would try to dissort things by overriding him, talking, being a buffoon in general and very disappointed in the vice president acting that way. it gives good credence
joe biden, those that thought joe biden did better. conversation very heated. let's start with claudia. you thought biden did better than ryan. why? >> he seemed to have a better command of the facts and more prepared with specifics. where i think ryan was more -- again, several people said he avoided giving specific information. biden seemed well informed. >> let's pass this back to arthur. why do you think joe biden did better? >> compared to what obama's performance, i...
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democrats certainly like how joe biden did as well. let's take a closer look at focus group of undecided virginia voters. how they responded. we measured reaction. the green line represents men. the yellow line is women. biden's best moment of the night. happened around 9:25 p.m. eastern. the question, if it's possible to get unemployment below 6%. listen to the vice president talk about taxes and the economy. >> they should be pledging to the middle class, we're going to level the playing feel. we'll give you a fair shot again. we're not going to repeat the mistakes we've done in the past by having a different set of rules for wall street and main street, making sure we continue to hemorrhage these tax cuts for the superwealthy. >> now let's take a look at paul ryan's best moment. he peaked at 9:27 p.m. eastern, answering the same question that biden peaked at. >> we need real reforms for real recovery. exactly what mitt romney and i are positive proposing. help people get the skills for the jobs they want. make trade work for america
democrats certainly like how joe biden did as well. let's take a closer look at focus group of undecided virginia voters. how they responded. we measured reaction. the green line represents men. the yellow line is women. biden's best moment of the night. happened around 9:25 p.m. eastern. the question, if it's possible to get unemployment below 6%. listen to the vice president talk about taxes and the economy. >> they should be pledging to the middle class, we're going to level the...
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. >> joe biden, by nature, a very passionate person. he overwhelms almost everybody in conversation. he just flows. and he doesn't quite -- there are those qualities. >> and biden says that's irish and martha raddatz was trying to figure out malarkey and some of the other stuff. that's irish. the conversation around thanksgiving dinner or in a pub. he dominated, in contrast to his boss. he would not yield on anything. wanted to jump in on every point. see the split, draw, who won? what will this do? liberals, energized. conservatives, energized. maybe both will go up a little in the sense have you energy and activity until tuesday night. one other footnote, historically, a candidate for vice president who bombs one of these, destroys their future credibility as a presidential candidate. paul ryan did not do that. >> what people look for in a president is not always passion. they like calmer demeanor, a little bit more deliberate. paul ryan i think did do very well for his future tonight. but not quite there as a president. got the makin
. >> joe biden, by nature, a very passionate person. he overwhelms almost everybody in conversation. he just flows. and he doesn't quite -- there are those qualities. >> and biden says that's irish and martha raddatz was trying to figure out malarkey and some of the other stuff. that's irish. the conversation around thanksgiving dinner or in a pub. he dominated, in contrast to his boss. he would not yield on anything. wanted to jump in on every point. see the split, draw, who won?...
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they're talking about joe biden, right? and there are people who thought he was sort of a caricature of himself. but i think that most people -- i want you to listen. >> the fact of the matter is, he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like ant him, he's authentic. you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. >> and he said after that, what i thought was funny, he offered ryan an internship, that biden did. but that's what people came away saying at least it was authentic, it wasn't canned. and the people criticizing him are on the right, the people who like it are on the left. did he do his job, lz? >> i definitely think he did his job, because he put more fight back on the ticket. and besides just rolling his eyes and the laughter, and i thought there were moments he was rude, he introduced parts of the conversation that the president didn't do. he talked about the 47% and the flaws
they're talking about joe biden, right? and there are people who thought he was sort of a caricature of himself. but i think that most people -- i want you to listen. >> the fact of the matter is, he dominated him. people can talk about joe biden. but what i think people like ant him, he's authentic. you believe what he was telling you. the only thing we really know about mitt romney is that he wants to be president of the united states of america. >> and he said after that, what i...
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, becomes the personality of joe biden. not necessarily in real life. >> makes you wonder if joe biden's going to invoke the old reagan line, i'm not going to exploit the youth and inexperience of my opponent for political gain. dana bash, you have a great assignment today pap great piece on dotcom. thanks so much. senior correspondent joining us, live where all the action is. take care. >>> and joe biden versus paul ryan, the vice presidential debate. watch it like right here on cnn. also coverage begins, gets under way with our crack team of reporters, correspondents, analysts and puntd it, 7:00 p.m., live on cnn. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. try the #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ ooh, ba
, becomes the personality of joe biden. not necessarily in real life. >> makes you wonder if joe biden's going to invoke the old reagan line, i'm not going to exploit the youth and inexperience of my opponent for political gain. dana bash, you have a great assignment today pap great piece on dotcom. thanks so much. senior correspondent joining us, live where all the action is. take care. >>> and joe biden versus paul ryan, the vice presidential debate. watch it like right here on...
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>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe biden during this dae bait. people can dmran about some stylistic maneuvers and the hands and the smiles and the smirks and all that kind of stuff, but there were no major verbal gaffs or anything by either of these candidates. i think it was a pretty good substantive debate. >> okay. so now i want to jump to something that's sort of unusual. i don't often hear pundits discuss this part of the debate. it was the very end, the stuff you're not usually supposed to be watching. it was when the families came up on the stage. i don't know about you, but
>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe...
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somebody said something, who was an aide to joe biden, and i like joe biden personally a lot. but he said joe biden is a little like a box of cracker jacks. you never know what prize is going to come out. >> you worked in the white house for republicans and democrats. who has that conversation with the vice president when they're not happy with something? >> well, i would imagine the word was passed not by the president but one -- >> i think after that interview joe biden went to the president. that's a conversation the president has with joe biden. but i think what's delicious about tonight, as just a viewer, is that the president didn't have a great debate, and the president had to come out today and say let joe be joe, which he probably doesn't mean. and then joe biden has to have a great debate to really stop the bleeding. >> we should rename this delicious debate night. gloria, david, thank you very much. let's check in with soledad at the debate hall. >> you know, the program officially is under way. right at the half hour, there's this hush that fell over the whole. and
somebody said something, who was an aide to joe biden, and i like joe biden personally a lot. but he said joe biden is a little like a box of cracker jacks. you never know what prize is going to come out. >> you worked in the white house for republicans and democrats. who has that conversation with the vice president when they're not happy with something? >> well, i would imagine the word was passed not by the president but one -- >> i think after that interview joe biden went...
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you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. >> don't forget, the traditional role of a vice presidential candidate is to go on the attack. that's their job. so i think we'll see a lot more of that in the vice presidential debate than we did in the first presidential debate. >> vice presidential debates have been contentious in the past. in 1984, then vice president george h.w. bush seemed condescending towards his opponent, congresswoman geraldine ferraro. >> let me help you with the difference between iran and the embassy in lebanon. >> congresswoman ferraro. >> let me just say first of all that i almost resent vice president bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. >> in 1988, dan quayle's self-comparisons to john f. kennedy drew this blistering response from his opponent, lloyd benson. >> senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> the debate in 1992 was described as a free-for-all with dan quayle and al gore continually interrupting each other. >> in foreign co
you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. >> don't forget, the traditional role of a vice presidential candidate is to go on the attack. that's their job. so i think we'll see a lot more of that in the vice presidential debate than we did in the first presidential debate. >> vice presidential debates have been contentious in the past. in 1984, then vice president george h.w. bush seemed condescending towards his opponent, congresswoman geraldine ferraro....
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it's going to be joe biden, vice president joe biden and paul ryan debating. they're both going to try to appeal to the working class, and i laugh. i enjoyed that when i said, america still has a working class? i don't think so. everybody is gone. >> this is nice. this week the obama's dog bo turned 4 years old. he spent the day, as he always does, digging holes, chasing squirrels and coaching obama for the debates. >> election watchers are always poised this late in the campaign season for what they refer to as an october surprise. it appears that time is upon us as evidenced by the recent presidential debate where barack obama unveiled his explosive october surprise, that he has given up! given up. surprise! >> proof that the obama team wants a different story coming out of tonight. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> no sideshow, not anymore if high stakes as the two candidates for vice president get ready to take the stage for tonight's debate. we will take you inside. >> and against all odds. rescuers on the scene of a deadly parking garage collapse
it's going to be joe biden, vice president joe biden and paul ryan debating. they're both going to try to appeal to the working class, and i laugh. i enjoyed that when i said, america still has a working class? i don't think so. everybody is gone. >> this is nice. this week the obama's dog bo turned 4 years old. he spent the day, as he always does, digging holes, chasing squirrels and coaching obama for the debates. >> election watchers are always poised this late in the campaign...
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>> joe biden -- little nervousness there. >> shirtless joe biden on the podium. >> my eyes are burned, i believe. >> if he has a good night he will walk off and tell the president, yeah, you owe me for that one. >> sparkling. >> of course. >> you should drink every time they mention scranton. you will be drinking. >> what about middle class? i think you would not even make it through the debate if you drink every time they say middle class. >> you want to be sober, they won't say poor. you will not hear poverty. >> how about every time they mention their parents? >> you're drinking. no question. >> middle class and parents. two big ones. >> live look at tonight's debate hall in danville, kentucky. we talked a little bit about the democratic take, how it's going to go. we'll get a republican reaction to the debate. >>> he's tall, yellow and ruffled feathers. >> leave him alone. >> in the election season. i'm talking about big bird, roland. there's an impact -- can i finish? may i finish? there's an impact on what's happening, all the conversation with big bird in the election and debat
>> joe biden -- little nervousness there. >> shirtless joe biden on the podium. >> my eyes are burned, i believe. >> if he has a good night he will walk off and tell the president, yeah, you owe me for that one. >> sparkling. >> of course. >> you should drink every time they mention scranton. you will be drinking. >> what about middle class? i think you would not even make it through the debate if you drink every time they say middle class....
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joe biden and paul ryan squaring off. our cnn coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> all right. some news for your car out there. honda is recalling 268,000 crvs, its popular suv, model years 2002 to 2006. they say there's a faulty window stwich in the driver's side door, and if it gets wet it can start fire. no crashes or injuries have been reported but honda knows a four-switch fires. >>> space travel will be a business with a launch tonight. spacex wilt pd send the first privately contracted mission to the international space station. launch time is 8:30 p.m. eastern time. spacex successfully demonstrated it could do the job back in may when it docked a capsule with the space station. tonight's launch is the first of many under a $1.6 billion contract with nasa. >>> latino voters are vital to president obama and mitt romney in the upcoming election. we're looking at the issues that will most impact their votes. online outfit piccolo headphones buy now broadway show megapixels place to sleep little roadster war and peace deep sea diving ninja app hipster glasses 5% cash back s
joe biden and paul ryan squaring off. our cnn coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> all right. some news for your car out there. honda is recalling 268,000 crvs, its popular suv, model years 2002 to 2006. they say there's a faulty window stwich in the driver's side door, and if it gets wet it can start fire. no crashes or injuries have been reported but honda knows a four-switch fires. >>> space travel will be a business with a launch tonight. spacex wilt pd send the first...
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>> look, joe biden is going to be joe biden. that would have been true whether he was doing this after a different debate last week or not. you know joe biden and the american people have gotten to know him. he's a fighter for the middle class. he feels it in his gut and even more importantly, the policies that he and the president stand for are ones that will help the middle class, which is in stark contrast to the romney/ryan plan. so, i think the nation is in for a really good discussion tonight. >> i think you're very right. a very serious, strong discussion. you know paul ryan now probably better than anyone you studied and studied him getting ready for these debate preparations. where do you believe the wisconsin congressman is most vulnerable? >> well, paul ryan is very quick on his feet. we've debated his budget many times in the house. but i think he's most vulnerable when it comes to translating his budget into the impact that it has on real people. when you actually begin to crunch the numbers and do the math, you fin
>> look, joe biden is going to be joe biden. that would have been true whether he was doing this after a different debate last week or not. you know joe biden and the american people have gotten to know him. he's a fighter for the middle class. he feels it in his gut and even more importantly, the policies that he and the president stand for are ones that will help the middle class, which is in stark contrast to the romney/ryan plan. so, i think the nation is in for a really good...
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joe biden's very energetic. out there on the road campaigning and hanging out at dairy queen and comes off younger than he is and paul ryan is a serious man coming across as older and the age difference thing might be a little bit overblown, brooke. >> i was talking to his first real congressional major opponent in 1998 and she pointed out saying to him i could be your mother and we know how well that race ended up for paul ryan. paul and peter, guys, enjoy the debate tonight. i'll be watching. thank you so, so much. just to remind all of you, the big debate, the only vice presidential debate tonight live right here on cnn and cnn.com. our coverage, please join us, two hours in advance, 7:00 eastern. >>> the romney campaign got a big lift from the first debate last week. so, what are the expectations for paul ryan tonight? congressman jeb hinserling tells me next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possi
joe biden's very energetic. out there on the road campaigning and hanging out at dairy queen and comes off younger than he is and paul ryan is a serious man coming across as older and the age difference thing might be a little bit overblown, brooke. >> i was talking to his first real congressional major opponent in 1998 and she pointed out saying to him i could be your mother and we know how well that race ended up for paul ryan. paul and peter, guys, enjoy the debate tonight. i'll be...
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of joe biden, i do in the think >> and the age of joe biden. not easy to debate your father. >> for a vice presidential nominee the bar is to prove you could be president if you had to. any doubt that paul ryan met that? >> yeah, i doubt it. i don't want him to be president. i'd be scared if he was president. >> i think you're in the mine or -- a lot this morning are saying he looked like he could handle it. >> you know, when it came to foreign policy he looked very robotic, i thought. i thought that, you know, he looked like he had a good training. >> when you listen to his answers, he splay looked robotic, but when you listen to the substance of his answers. >> i think there were a lot of questions he didn't answer. i think there were a lot of moments where he just kind of, you know, shrugged his shoulders. >> ana, let me ask you, martha, pushed paul ryan very hard on the specifics of the tax plan, the 20% tax rates, how do they pay for it. ryan really did not fill in the blanks there. will he have to at some point? did he satisfy you? will h
of joe biden, i do in the think >> and the age of joe biden. not easy to debate your father. >> for a vice presidential nominee the bar is to prove you could be president if you had to. any doubt that paul ryan met that? >> yeah, i doubt it. i don't want him to be president. i'd be scared if he was president. >> i think you're in the mine or -- a lot this morning are saying he looked like he could handle it. >> you know, when it came to foreign policy he looked...
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joe biden said he is excited. he sat down with other own dana bash to talk about his prep for the debate, and dana asked about biden's last debate opponent. >> the only other person to debate joe biden in a vice president debate is sarah palin. have you called her for advice? >> i have her. i only pet meth her once, and that was about two years ago. >> would you? >> sure, sure. >> can i call you joe? >> she famously or maybe infamously said that she wanted to call him joe because she kept calling him joe o'biden in debate prep. >> he knows me as paul, and i know him as swroe. i don't know. i haven't given much thought to that, to be honest with you. probably not unless he wants to make a case of it, but we know each other. actually we've gotten along quite well over the years. i like joe personally quite a bit. i just disagree with his policies. >> all right. dana is in danville, and, you know, we've all been trying not to say o'biden because it gets kind of cooky sometimes when you're mixing up all of the names h
joe biden said he is excited. he sat down with other own dana bash to talk about his prep for the debate, and dana asked about biden's last debate opponent. >> the only other person to debate joe biden in a vice president debate is sarah palin. have you called her for advice? >> i have her. i only pet meth her once, and that was about two years ago. >> would you? >> sure, sure. >> can i call you joe? >> she famously or maybe infamously said that she wanted to...
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>> this is not my friend, joe biden, give me some green pork. that's over lunch. now, this is simply a bureaucratic navigation, but writing a secretary of energy asking for these green jobs and stimulus money. the very stuff he hits on the campaign trial a lot. he's hitting it on the campaign trial. attacking the stimulus. attacking green jobs but in these letters clearly asking for his own share of green pk when he had the opportunity. >> and what's your bottom line verdict? you think this is understandable for voters? >> i think they need to understand this is part of the congressman's job, but if he's going it never benefits small businesses, talking about green pork, green jobs, how the stimulus was a failure, he had to know these letters were out there. that opens him up to accusations of hypocrisy or ideological inconsistency. >>> friend might have been the most annoying word of the debate last night. just my take. >>> "outfront" next, he's only 12 years old but already caught the eye of apple. apple, which by the way tonight seems to be very afraid. for you
>> this is not my friend, joe biden, give me some green pork. that's over lunch. now, this is simply a bureaucratic navigation, but writing a secretary of energy asking for these green jobs and stimulus money. the very stuff he hits on the campaign trial a lot. he's hitting it on the campaign trial. attacking the stimulus. attacking green jobs but in these letters clearly asking for his own share of green pk when he had the opportunity. >> and what's your bottom line verdict? you...
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you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company. he's a very good guy, personally, so it's not as if i -- but honest to god, he still is a heartbeat away from the presidency and when some of the things he says, you know, you're slack-jawed. but i think he'll be well-prepared for this debate. i would remind you, he didn't do that well against sarah palin, so -- but also, paul ryan is a real policy wonk. he knows all the details. so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb num
you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company....
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the bests we could do is drag outa famous photo shop dog of joe biden washing his transam in the white house driveway. >> this is the potential of the united states. >> oh, it is. >> i think it's a great look for him. just like a regular old joe blow. >>> okay, let's move on to some sports action, of the nhl has locked out it's play, but we'll hear how some local businesses in new jersey are the ones really feeling the pain. businee susan candiotti takes us to a- >> newark's pru dental center -- the arena is awfully quiet these days. the nhl has locked out players, preventing the puck from dropping in the preseason and two weeks of the regular season so far. >> it's definitely gut wrenching. >> tom bloom runs ed dissoon ale house, a bar and restaurant right krothsz from the brew ten da daal -- business could drop 35% this month and up to 45% if the lockout continues. >> if the devils were playing on a tuesday night as opposed to a nonevent night, we're talking got a 782% spring. >> they already lost their nba team, the former new jersey now brooklyn nets, this hotel that opened last mo
the bests we could do is drag outa famous photo shop dog of joe biden washing his transam in the white house driveway. >> this is the potential of the united states. >> oh, it is. >> i think it's a great look for him. just like a regular old joe blow. >>> okay, let's move on to some sports action, of the nhl has locked out it's play, but we'll hear how some local businesses in new jersey are the ones really feeling the pain. businee susan candiotti takes us to a-...
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joe biden will face off with paul ryan. cnn's political editor, paul steinhauser, joins me now from danville, kentucky. paul, set the stage for us. it's red, white and blue. i have to say, though, i'm looking forward to this one more than the other one because you never know what joe biden is going to say, and that makes for some great television. >> reporter: joe biden often speaks from his heart, no doubt about that. i think this could be maybe a more entertaining debate than last week in denver. those live pictures -- i saw you try to do them at the top of the hour, but you have them now. that building right there, that's what you were looking at inside. here's how it's going to work. first of all, the congressman from wisconsin, paul ryan, in one corner. he will be here later today, don. he arrives later today here in danville. vice president biden coming in tomorrow. both men, as you know, you haven't seen them on the campaign trail much. why? they've been locked down on debate prep. it's a 90-minute debate. martha rad
joe biden will face off with paul ryan. cnn's political editor, paul steinhauser, joins me now from danville, kentucky. paul, set the stage for us. it's red, white and blue. i have to say, though, i'm looking forward to this one more than the other one because you never know what joe biden is going to say, and that makes for some great television. >> reporter: joe biden often speaks from his heart, no doubt about that. i think this could be maybe a more entertaining debate than last week...
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joe is very good on the attack. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank yo
joe is very good on the attack. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these...
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biden, hasn't been in the game as long as joe biden. so does biden walk into that stage with a tougher challenge? >> yes i think biden has the tougher challenge tonight. he does have an advantage, though. as you've shown in your own poll there. people expect biden to lose, and ryan to do better. that's because of their view of joe biden. i think they might be surprised by biden, just it's a they were surprised by mitt romney's performance in denver. but, yeah. ryan simply has to maintain the momentum that was generated by his running mate, mitt romney. if he does reasonably well, if he holds his own, if he even tie, i think that will be a plus for the romney/ryan ticket. so the greater burden is on biden. he does have longer experience at this. certainly has done many more high profile debates and he'll need all the experience to do well. >> all right. again, i'm going to be watching. i know you will, and i would venture a guess this one may be rated higher than the presidential debate. thank you very much, larry. appreciate it. >> than
biden, hasn't been in the game as long as joe biden. so does biden walk into that stage with a tougher challenge? >> yes i think biden has the tougher challenge tonight. he does have an advantage, though. as you've shown in your own poll there. people expect biden to lose, and ryan to do better. that's because of their view of joe biden. i think they might be surprised by biden, just it's a they were surprised by mitt romney's performance in denver. but, yeah. ryan simply has to maintain...
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joe biden did. let's listen for a second. >> we did not pull them out. >> the calendar works the same every year. >> it does work the same every year. >> the eyebrows come together and the eyes narrow and that is classic anger. >> so in their closing statements, both candidates, you think, were very interesting. >> yeah. >> let's watch joe biden's expressions during his close. he's looking down, he's not looking at the camera. not smiling. >> it looks genuine and he softened it. he's been up here for most of the debate and now he's taken the energy level down here, and then i think this is really interesting. >> like the pledge of allegiance. >> he puts his hand on his heart. that's sort of i feel you. that's a way of saying i feel you, i'm with you. >> paul ryan's close was much different than joe biden's. tell me how. >> this seems a little bit more scripted than he was for the rest of the debate. so what you see is that he's looking right into the camera. you again, though, see the eyebrows raise
joe biden did. let's listen for a second. >> we did not pull them out. >> the calendar works the same every year. >> it does work the same every year. >> the eyebrows come together and the eyes narrow and that is classic anger. >> so in their closing statements, both candidates, you think, were very interesting. >> yeah. >> let's watch joe biden's expressions during his close. he's looking down, he's not looking at the camera. not smiling. >> it...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness, they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the presidency. but beyond that in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> brazil says the first rule here is to
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable...
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joe biden's very experienced at this. and i think that's right. because of the lack of momentum they have, because of the president's terrible performance, because mitt romney did such a good job of giving the country a choice, i don't think they have any choice but to have joe biden come right at me. >> hilary? >> i think there is pressure on joe biden to deliver a big performance. but i actually think there's more pressure on paul ryan because there were so many times in the debate where mitt romney kind of got -- changed the facts from the policies he's said. whether it was how he's going to make his tax cut revenue-neutral. whether he's going -- whether the president's medicare proposal is actually a cut in medicare. paul ryan was the chair of the house budget committee. it would be an affront to him not to have accurate, factual details on these issues the way that romney got away with not having. >> paul ryan knows numbers, statistics, stuff like that. >> he does. it's going to be interesting. there's a generational divide. you have the two
joe biden's very experienced at this. and i think that's right. because of the lack of momentum they have, because of the president's terrible performance, because mitt romney did such a good job of giving the country a choice, i don't think they have any choice but to have joe biden come right at me. >> hilary? >> i think there is pressure on joe biden to deliver a big performance. but i actually think there's more pressure on paul ryan because there were so many times in the...
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i mean, joe biden -- we spent today listening to the white house say everything joe biden said about benghazi, he wasn't speaking for the administration. he was speaking for joe biden. >> do voters -- i think we can criticize the administration quite a bit on how this has been handled and the confusion and maybe dishonesty. do voters care about their reaction to benghazi in this election? because i'm not sure that that's an issue that voters care. they should. they absolutely should. but i'm not sure that's something -- >> we're not through flushing out this issue. this issue is continuing to get more complicated. >> and republicans -- >> this is not about republicans. come on, guys. there's four dead americans. >> it's an evolving security situation. one can expect one thing true in the beginning is different in the end. i think we have to take the politics out of this. what voters care about, they may not care about benghazi, but they care about bin laden. >> yesterday obama had a six-point advantage on handling foreign policy and a four-point advantage on handling terrorism. that'
i mean, joe biden -- we spent today listening to the white house say everything joe biden said about benghazi, he wasn't speaking for the administration. he was speaking for joe biden. >> do voters -- i think we can criticize the administration quite a bit on how this has been handled and the confusion and maybe dishonesty. do voters care about their reaction to benghazi in this election? because i'm not sure that that's an issue that voters care. they should. they absolutely should. but...
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this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan stick with the big picture and go after biden on the rising debt and our sky rocketed unemployment and talk about the failed last four years as opposed to being trying to get trapped in some of the bieden spiderwebs that he will try to weave. >> it appears that joe biden is really taking this seriously because the democrats don't want to repeat of the first debate, right? joe biden apparently has taken six days off and practicing, practicing, practicing, especially with zingers. >> yes, absolutely, and he should be taking it seriously. i
this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan...
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>> of course, joe biden, again, knows how to communicate very, very well. i think when people talk about last week, expectations for president obama are always exceedingly high and it was relatively easy for mr. romney who had an 11th hour conversion. we recall that he is the etch-a-sketch guy that has transformed himself and quite frankly, we always have to wonder which mitt is going to show up. so if you just lay out lie after lie after lie about your own plan as well as what the president has been talking about, of course, you can look good. vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. whether it's about medicare and that it's a voucher program, that mr. romney and mr. ryan, their health care plan will lead to many uninsured and put people back out. if they have preexisting conditions. >> let me just step back just a minute here about your defense of the president's performance. what is your theory? i mean, it was widely panned, a
>> of course, joe biden, again, knows how to communicate very, very well. i think when people talk about last week, expectations for president obama are always exceedingly high and it was relatively easy for mr. romney who had an 11th hour conversion. we recall that he is the etch-a-sketch guy that has transformed himself and quite frankly, we always have to wonder which mitt is going to show up. so if you just lay out lie after lie after lie about your own plan as well as what the...
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and there's pressure because joe biden has been doing this for 40 years. he's ran for president twice. this is my first time on this kind of a stage. >> reporter: will joe biden bring up 40%? will he bring up bain capital? >> i think it's a good, safe bet. paul steinhauser, joining us. >>> the only debate of the vice presidential campaign thursday night, you can watch it live on cnn and at cnn.com. join us. >>> and this just in to cnn. gas prices right now, aaa says the national price for a gallon of regular unleaded is $3.82. california has the highest gas prices in the land, averaging $4.67 a gallon. california's governor, jerry brown, is taking emergency measures to ease is price at the pump. prices have spiked because of refinery outages and supply problems. he's calling for an increase in supply and an early switch to the winter fuel blend. >>> a man dies of a heart attack after an all-out brawl. there was tension with one party and another. the brawl broke out at a bar. two men for cited for disorderly contact. a third man police hit with a baton in
and there's pressure because joe biden has been doing this for 40 years. he's ran for president twice. this is my first time on this kind of a stage. >> reporter: will joe biden bring up 40%? will he bring up bain capital? >> i think it's a good, safe bet. paul steinhauser, joining us. >>> the only debate of the vice presidential campaign thursday night, you can watch it live on cnn and at cnn.com. join us. >>> and this just in to cnn. gas prices right now, aaa...
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>> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential debate on foreign policy specifically, hala gorani, thank you very much. >>> now, joe biden, heads up, we're watching and waiting this will be first time we will have heard from him since the debate last night. speaking for the first time in, here we go, live pictures, don't see him yet, in paul ryan's territory, lacrosse, wisconsin. waiting for him, watching. be right back. customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her pack
>> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential debate on foreign policy specifically, hala...
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i'm reading joe biden's speeches. watching joe biden tape and studying on all the various issues. >> thanks to romney's strong performance at last week's debate, there's even more on the line at the v.p. showdown. randi. >> paul steinhouser, thank you. >>> well, if you hear someone talking about the big debate today that went down saturday night, they're not talking about president obama, governor romney, or even "saturday night live." they are talking about fox news host bill o'reilly and the daily show host john stewart. both men went at it and left no subject off the table during debate they billed as the rumble in the air conditioned auditorium at george washington university in d.c. >> fox news is sort of the lupus of news. they are -- they have seen something. it is there with a -- and fox news has gone overboard. >> well, hey -- [ applause ] >> fnc is making a billion dollars a year so something is -- >> you can't make money selling -- >> if you missed it last night, you can watch it on-line at the rumble 2012.
i'm reading joe biden's speeches. watching joe biden tape and studying on all the various issues. >> thanks to romney's strong performance at last week's debate, there's even more on the line at the v.p. showdown. randi. >> paul steinhouser, thank you. >>> well, if you hear someone talking about the big debate today that went down saturday night, they're not talking about president obama, governor romney, or even "saturday night live." they are talking about fox...
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everyone expects joe biden to come out like raging bull and try and redress the balance of a rather dopey president obama the other night. if he does that, and the polls start to swing back on the back of it which could happen, what kind of mitt romney can we expect in the second debate? will he stay the same, will he respond to a more aggressive barack obama? what are you anticipating? >> yeah, sure. look, we have always expected that this race would be close and in that respect, i agree with stephanie's analysis. again, i think what was so dramatic last week and this what is the obama campaign is having such a hard time with, is for the last four years, barack obama has never been on a stage with someone who has actually been able to hold him to account for his record. you know, 47 million people on food stamps, one in six million -- sorry, one in six americans living in poverty, 23 million americans searching for work. no one has actually sat there and held him to account on the same platform, asked the tough questions, had him explain for the failure, the misery that this economy is r
everyone expects joe biden to come out like raging bull and try and redress the balance of a rather dopey president obama the other night. if he does that, and the polls start to swing back on the back of it which could happen, what kind of mitt romney can we expect in the second debate? will he stay the same, will he respond to a more aggressive barack obama? what are you anticipating? >> yeah, sure. look, we have always expected that this race would be close and in that respect, i agree...
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but watch out for joe biden. middle class, beer drinking joe biden. find they motional middle class moment and say paul ryan, don't you know the people you are going to hurt? >> and paul, to your point, if they attack, you want them -- they both should be attacking upwards. >> they'll either both attack up, or, and this is bad for the principals, they may just get along having a civil conversation, not helping president obama or mitt romney. so they have to be contentious toward the guy at the top. >> one thing that hasn't been talked about so far is poor people. one of the things -- we talk about the middle class being destroyed. it's important that we remember that paul ryan actually has something to say about poor people. he wants to take away nutritional programs, i think if you want to talk about what's happening in scranton, what will help people in scranton is not what paul ryan is talking about. >> the debate is about to start. wolf? >> only a few seconds away from the start of the debate. a 42-year-old republican vice presidential nominee, a
but watch out for joe biden. middle class, beer drinking joe biden. find they motional middle class moment and say paul ryan, don't you know the people you are going to hurt? >> and paul, to your point, if they attack, you want them -- they both should be attacking upwards. >> they'll either both attack up, or, and this is bad for the principals, they may just get along having a civil conversation, not helping president obama or mitt romney. so they have to be contentious toward the...
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biden and the issues that he brought up. he brought up all of those things that democrats wanted the president to bring up. i am assuming that you will hear the president talk about the 47% gaf of mitt romney. i think you will hear a lot of talk, much as you are hearing on the campaign trail now about, well, is this, you know, the mitt romney from ten years ago or the mitt romney from -- there will be a lot about the president to kind of frame mitt romney as someone who changes his mind on the issues. i think what the -- certainly what the romney people are hoping for is another good soltd debate. they think if they can keep it on the issues and show as they believe they did in the first debate, mitt romney knows what he is talking about and that he has a plan and that he can move things farther, that's what they're looking for. >> this debate will be a town hall format. will that benefit obama, do you think? does he thrive in that condition? >> we'll see. certainly it should. i mean, you know, to me the president, whoever i
biden and the issues that he brought up. he brought up all of those things that democrats wanted the president to bring up. i am assuming that you will hear the president talk about the 47% gaf of mitt romney. i think you will hear a lot of talk, much as you are hearing on the campaign trail now about, well, is this, you know, the mitt romney from ten years ago or the mitt romney from -- there will be a lot about the president to kind of frame mitt romney as someone who changes his mind on the...
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. >> are you confident, governor, that paul ryan will take on joe biden thursday night the way you took on the president? >> you know, i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. this is i think paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school, i don't know. but it will be a new experience for paul, but i'm sure he'll do fine and frankly, paul has the facts at his side, he has policy on his side and we also have results on our side. >> what should you have said about that 47%? >> well, wolf, as you know, i was talking about how do you get to 50.1% of the vote. i would like to get 100% of the vote but i figure that's not going to happen so i try to tell contributors how i get to 50.1%. i think it's always a perilous course for a candidate to start talking about the mathematics of an election. my campaign is about talking about how to get 100% of the americans to have a more bright and prosperous future. >> mitt romney talking to wolf blitzer.
. >> are you confident, governor, that paul ryan will take on joe biden thursday night the way you took on the president? >> you know, i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. this is i think paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school, i don't know. but it will be a new experience for paul, but i'm sure he'll do fine and...
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but i would agree with maria that joe biden was effective and i think democrats were definitely very pleased with his performance. i also think that republicans were generally pretty pleased with paul ryan's performance. so i'd overall say that you could come away from that debate with many different impressions. >> there was an interesting cnn orc poll that i wanted to share with both of you. the question was, is ryan qualified to be president? and the answer, 60% said yes. and 38% said no. so maria, what do you say to that? >> well, i think that he's right in terms of a lot of republicans -- and i think democrats, too, saw that ryan held his own. he had a solid performance. and so i think that judging from that, a lot of voters said well, you know, if this ticket is elected, then paul ryan would certainly have at some point the standing to be president, and so i think in that sense, a lot of republicans were happy with the job performance that he laid out in the vice presidential debate. but again -- and i agree, you can come out of this, both parties, very happy with what happened
but i would agree with maria that joe biden was effective and i think democrats were definitely very pleased with his performance. i also think that republicans were generally pretty pleased with paul ryan's performance. so i'd overall say that you could come away from that debate with many different impressions. >> there was an interesting cnn orc poll that i wanted to share with both of you. the question was, is ryan qualified to be president? and the answer, 60% said yes. and 38% said...